So is this it?

[Tecate]

I sit here as a North American, not a US citizen, I live in Canada and Mexico

I’m just short of 60. I have seen a lot of weird ass crap between what we call the 2 party system in the USA, and I wonder if this is actually what the KGB had planned has actually come to pass. The plan was to use it division of the country via electoral boundaries to destroy it from the inside.

The idea was to introduce off-ideas like trans, LGBTQ etc to divide the population, and therefore divide and destroy the family structure that is the core value of the country.

Instead of coming together as a group, we have seen a division that seems insurmountable.
Is it though? I ask this question because I don’t believe that there is a real problem. I have friends and family who are in these groups and they consistently tell me that those groups don’t speak for me or us….

Is it a tempest in a teapot?

I don’t mean any disrespect, but I believe that we have always had our family members who have been “different” and always loved them.

I’m kind of getting tired of the BS and divide..

My 2 pesos…

Tecate

[Blaine91555]

Real America is very different than what the world thinks based on the news. Now with it being election time the hyped-up politicized garbage is in overdrive. In the real world, we all get along fairly well, and politics is forgotten between election cycles. The pockets of hate in the large cities are an exception.

I've noticed that Canada's politics is not all that different. Mexico, well that's another story it seems to me. Very dangerous place other than the staged areas set up for tourists.

[Tecate]

Hey Blaine, you are very right.

Canada’s politics have changed quite dramatically.
The NDP (New Democrat Party) started as the Canadian Communist Party.
The Liberal Party has always been a socialist party, and the Conservative Party has been, well conservative, or right wing.

We used to have very polite politicians who you voted for individually regardless of their party, because they would vote along the people’s wishes. Truly representative of their constituents. That has clearly changed.

Mexico is a totally different kettle of fish.
At the community level, the politicians are very representative. They are our neighbours and friends. But once they rise up and speak against corruption and violence, they get killed. It’s unbelievable.

Having said that, where we live you and I could walk down a couple blocks for a couple of beers in the middle of the night without any problems. My wife and I regularly do go out. Other places in the city maybe not. I’ve never had any problems anywhere. But there’s places in Edmonton that I would never do that…

The current government there portrays themselves as socialist, but we have seen what that means. Not unlike communism, they are all equal, it’s just that some are more equal than others.

Anyway I rant…

Thank you for your reply.

Tecate

[quintessentone]

I think both governments just need to give all people a living wage and have food, child care and shelter affordable or in line with one's wages as well as free and readily accessible medical/dental - for a start. How taxes are gathered needs to be changed as many ultra wealthy people do not pay their fair share.

As for the other complicated stuff, I think that seems to reside in the realms of the extremists, lobbyists and/or activists and those issues should not be decided by the few but rather the majority of society should decide on how to move forward because as we all know societies are not stagnant, they change with each new generation.

[Tecate]

Hmm, what you are proposing is very socialist, bordering upon communism. Ha!!

So do people work for this basic living allowance?
Is that what anyone/everyone gets?
Sounds like welfare here in Canada. No incentive to do anything, or you lose it.

Sounds expensive, but if EVERY government adopted it then we wouldn’t have the uncontrolled immigration issues. Then it would rapidly become a supply/demand issue.

Then taxation would have to actually be more proportional than it has been. This could fill in the gaps.

What though, would be the incentive to exceed?

My 2 pesos…

Tecate